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i9 12900k For $610 Dollars WTF???



i9 12900k For $610 Dollars WTF???
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  1. EVGA 3090 ftw3 ultra gaming gpu issues Help me please is this a wise bu or should I cancel my preorder? 😙

    I'm still using an i7 [email protected] 12gb ram with msi Rx 480 8gb/gigabyte X58A UD3R Mobo I got from overclockers UK in June 2010 for £1500.I preordered placed an order for a prebuilt from scan uk on 18/09/21, estimated delivery around 08/11/21 it's a 3xs sytem with ryzen 9 5900x liquid cooled h100x/32gb corsair vengeance ddr4 3200mhz /Asus Rog strix b550 F gaming Mobo /EVGA 3090 24gb ftw3 ultra gaming/ICUE 220T rgb mid case/1tb WD SN550 nvme m.2 gen 3 /2tb seagate barracuda hdd/Corsair 850w psu.Seriously thinking about calling them in next couple of days to cancel.Why wait for month half at least for this sytem paying premium price £3099.98 for a system with a Gpu with junk innards?Christ my crappy old weedy 8gb Rx 480 has been fine for 5-6 years 2k gaming max settings only at 30fps. That's why I need a new pc as my current Rigg blue screens often .Can just picture playing farcry 6 or Breakpoint whatever 4k maxed out and that super expensive gpu dying just a waste of money and time and I see Scan Uk don't give you the gpu box. If I am dumb enough to stick with my preorder better get one as I'll need it for the RMA or will I be sending the entire system back. EVGA apparently do replace your gpu think UK are last on their list hmmmm… I need to think very carefully, I've waited a long time for an upgrade, Should I cancel and go for new Intel however I don't see how gpu situation can improve I just know I'm going to be giving my EVGA 3090ftw3 ultra gaming to a DPD courier in place of a piece of paper as Scan gets it and ships it back to the states, the only gpu option round and round we go, until they send me one that last as long as my cheap Rx 480 8gb.Noone can Tell me I'm wrong not even on scan uk forum. As far as I can see the OCP system VRM hasn't been thought over carefully enough as there's probably going to be a flood of evga, gigabyte 3090's etc with dead VRM in the next year. So for me with an ancient pc patience in this instance isn't a virtue? 😙Up shit creek without a paddle even when If I cancel before 8/11/21 build stage 3 fuck help I need Pauls help and his wise minded pc well informed advisors on this

  2. i9 12900K is £579, is faster than the R9 5950X for £750, I don't see the issue here bud? What people are liking this guys content?

  3. CHEAPER AND FASTER THAN 5950X ON EVERYTHING IT DOES…ITS 16 CORE WITH 24 THREADS…ITS GONNA BE HARDER FOR AMD TO LOWER ANY CHIP BY PRICE DURING INFLATION AND SUPPLY CONSTRAINS INFECTED ENTIRE WORLD NOW…THEY ONLY CAN MAKE FEW PER WEEK…FROM BOTH SIDES…WHILE TSMC CATCH ON FIRE AGAIN ON 5NM FACILITY…WTH THEY COOKING OVER THEIR…VIRUSES, HOW LUCKY WE DON'T HAVE THEIR FACILITY OVER AZ…IMAGINE FIRES CAN BURNED DOWNED ENTIRE WEST BY THEM ALONE…DUE TO 5NM GOT TOO HOT TO MAKE BY 300W REQUIREMENT FOR ZEN4 CORES THAT NEED 300W TO POWER 24 CORES AND 16 CORES…LIKE I SAID…THIS IS X86 …GET USE TO IT….ONLY ARM USE LESS POWER

  4. If you haven't noticed, the world around us is slowly failing. They are just trying to stay ahead of inflation.

  5. Haven't Intel released 2 generations of CPU's to Amd's in that time? If so well it's bound to be Intel's turn to hit the lead

  6. Lol judging by what Intel has been doing in the past, running at its max boost clock on all core, definitely wouldn't be surprised if it pulls 300 to 400w. Why would you doubt that? Lol
    I think AMD feels comfortable about 3D Cache though in gaming probably and they'll probably up the clock speed a bit with those SKUs too. We might see a heat battle between AMD and Intel in gaming.

  7. The processor is pointless as far as gaming's considered. Until you can buy a gpu at reasonable prices any new cpu is not worth buying. It could be double or triple the performance of the last one and it still won't matter. Basically this Gen is dead and wait till the next one comes out. Hopefully by that time a gpu won't be so overpriced.

  8. All these 'gaming fps increases' at 720p or 1080p are a steaming load of marketing BS – who actually notices? (Also they look to be not as rosy in real world scenarios as the synthetic benchmarks and gaming microbenchmarks would have people believe, but I'll get to why thats important in a bit – it has to do with latency and memory hierarchies vs program size)
    Competitive overclocking tends to focus around synthetics (3dmark, etc) or even just raw clocks (competitive bulldozer overclocking)
    Actual people playing games for fun might "care" only because marketing folks at AMD and Intel tried to make it look relevant to them, but really its not. Who is going to actually tell the difference between an R5 or i5 from within the last couple generations vs the products from AMD and Intel launching in the next couple quarters? The GPU has so much more impact on the gameplay experience, and is also much more expensive right now.
    And as for people like myself who do productivity tasks on CPUs, that gets to the point I was making earlier about the microbenchmarks vs real world benchmarks. Intel was talking up a storm about 'real world benchmarks' the last couple generations, but really what they meant was still just gaming fps. When I say 'real world', I mean the stuff that people use CPUs to do for productive, money-making purposes (and no, getting an extra 20 fps on 1080p at refresh rates so high a monitor doesnt support them or the gpu bottlenecks anyways in professional e-sports does not count because the player is not really benefiting at all from that. At the very least what should actually matter to them is stuff like the 0.1% percentile frametimes, since brief stutter can be an actual impact for them, not average fps beyond the monitor or GPU) – what all these tasks have in common is that they tend to be relatively big compared to microbenchmarks, and getting a cache big enough to squeeze it all in is a lot harder (unless you just go all-out on a giant L3, since making a bigger L1 or L2 can impose latency penalties unless your clocks are high enough to compensate), and even then your branch predictor and prefetcher need to be beefy enough to handle them as well. Getting synthetics or canned mini gameplay loops to fit nicely in those limits is not as hard as trying to get a large codebases' compilation, a long video, or for gaming, an extended play session of an openworld single player game, or a large strategy game for example to fit in those limits. I saw someone recently did some very good testing on cache misses and branch mispredictions, in the context of the evolution of Via's IP from their eden chips to Zhaoxin's 6th gen parts, with some comparisons to modern AMD and Intel chips too, including a statistical simulation of what AMD's zen3 would look like with a 96mb L3. What it showed is that software has a sweet spot for cache sizes – ie, what is just big enough to handle it for a given level of cache, because the bigger your cache, the higher the latency. 3D stacking just lets you squeeze in more 'near' memory to get in some more cache 'for free'. With the relatively beefy L1 and L2 on alderlake, its 'big enough' to squeeze synthetics largely into those cache levels, but going beyond that looks like you end up contending with a relatively anemic L3, and then having to go out to RAM much sooner than you would on zen3, let alone 3D stacked zen 3. Note that the author also made mention of why AMD likely cancelled HBM versions of zen4 chips in one of the later articles, since they appear to have disappeared from the roadmap in leaks, but Intel still has them planned for sapphire rapids, their competitor to zen4. HBM as an L4 cache actually has pretty garbage latency compared to L3 SRAM, because HBM is still DRAM, just DRAM with a very very wide bus – high latency but very high bandwidth. You can get a lot of data in at once, but you have to wait for it to arrive. The thing about sapphire rapids is that it has 8 channels of external dram, but zen4 (genoa and bergamo) will have 12 channels. Its realistic to believe that because of the additional channels providing a lot more bandwidth anyways, AMD felt it probably wasnt necessary to include HBM since they wouldnt be getting much for it, but Intel could squeeze out some additional bandwidth benefits due to their narrower off-chip total memory bus

  9. You say we don't know if it'll be the best or the worst CPU yet… But we kinda do. Currently the top end intel competes with the top end AMD in single threading. So if this new CPU wasn't performing better they would of just released another +++++++ refresh.

  10. I can beat any Intel over clock score if I over clock my 5950x pbo2 so Intel is just doing the rocket lake thing to try to take back the Crown of single thread level because I can get with PBO 02 single clocks up to 700 to match rocketlake so this is nothing but Intel still trying to play catch up and it will not sell for $600 so basically you can just forget this generation and hope that the meteor lake is finally gonna do something but this is worthless having to buy a new motherboard. AMD's 3-D chip will tie this chip anyway with your existing board. So Intel is still scamming you.

  11. That’s not bad. Of course I’d love to see it under $400 but that’s completely unrealistic, especially with this jack wagon in office and prices on everything going through the roof. They’re not forcing anyone to buy this, besides, I thought everyone is an AMD fanboy these days.

  12. 12400F/12600KF/12700F(we still dont know if 12400F will have same core amount as 12600KF.If yes then forget also about 12600KF and buy 12400F instead) this is all you need.Who cares about overpriced 12900K garbage?Intel always have overpriced K cpus and their lower end cpus are best deal.Look at 11700F vs 5800X.11700F cost 50% less than 5800X and have same gaming performance. Or 11400F vs 5600X. 5600X cost almost twice as much and have almost same gaming performance as 11400F. Like WTF why you never talk about that?
    I understand you doing clickbaits titles and always talking about 12900K. But how about you talk how good 11400F and 11700F are vs current zen3 lineup and how good 12400F/12700F can and probably will be?

  13. Ddr5 will be waaay to expensive + the timings will be slow at first but if the cpu 600 bucks that's really great.

    Still tho; depending on price; if one is waiting for full adoption of both pcie and ddr 5 I'd almost skip this cpu entirely.

    Why? By the time ddr5 gets its timings to compliment ts speed ; you're probably looking at a time frame around the next gen of cpus anyway.

  14. Im failing to see the issue here, 1) its a leak 2) it basicaly matches performance in multithread to a 5950 x and out performs the 5900X. What did you really think intel wasnt gonna charge premium brand prices anymore because amd decided to start charging more then them when they finally put out CPUs that were barely faster in gaming? Tbh i thought they were really gonna charge 800. Atleast this gives me hope the 12600K will be faster in every way than a 5800X and be around $250-350

  15. I'd say multi core should be 8-12% behind the 5950X as the leaks suggest. AMD still has that high ground and they will advertise it.

  16. Over 700$ would just make no sense tbh, Intel knows their boards will be more expensive and also that AMD can easily bring out a 5950X3D for 749$ and win in gaming and multi core. If I'm Intel I'd go with 599$ or 649$ at the absolute max.

  17. Most interested in the 12100f, 12400f and 12600Kf, they could be very good for the below 300$ market, where AMD has nothing really against it, the 5600X will look like a sad joke compared to the i5 12600Kf in literally everything except power consumption.

  18. Prices are not 100% now, but I think 599$ is a fair price if it can beat the 5900X on average. They can't go too high though, like over 649$, because boards will be more expensive and AMD will bring a V-Cache version of the 5900X.

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