The P2W is Getting Out of Hand in Diablo Immortal…

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1. I stopped purchasing these chests because someone says it's only one 5 star gem how? u chose 6 then randomly they give you one

2. bs game i ever play

3. Cut the shit, we all know you want comments to get engagements therefor more exposure. thats not news for anyone.

4. I still think you can just chose to play the game and not give them any money lol. Yes it’s on option. But you don’t need to

5. Sadly the monetization aspects of this game (along with just about every other online game) will literally never change in any dramatic fashion.

   I mean think about it, “thousands” if not “millions” of players all around the world have already proven time & time again to devs that they are indeed willing to fork over insane amounts of $ in order to race to the top of their fav game leaderboards. So if your objective as a developer/shareholder is to “make your company as much $ as possible”… then why would you ever not continue to cater to your highest spenders who time & time again have already given you mass amounts of $?

   The painful truth is that we will never see a truly balanced & fair DI game; at its heart it will always be a P2W game (but ftr: I personally think that the 2 new chests in the shop will go for $50-$100; I can’t imagine them trying to sell any single chests for over $100, let alone for $200; but I could be wrong…😬).

6. Hello Misery, love your videos. I just wanted to say that if this game sounds so p2w, why not try some other games. Undecember with its latest update removed nearly all p2w from thier shop, gave the whales diamonds as compensation and added seasons to thier game. If you can take out some time, try that game out. No hate to immortal, judt thought id share an alternative. 😊

7. If you're f2p enjoy those aspects and play accordingly. Im one of the low spenders in the warband I'm in and Thursday my son and myself (he's in the same WB) defeated Dymdrail The Crawling Woe H8 and took Apothrus Tamer of the Fallen H8 down to 6 million pts before it timed out just the 2 of us. That night with the full WB which consists of several big wing big spenders we couldn't beat the one me and my son defeated earlier all those money players were dead and out of life's with just my Sader left I unfortunately couldn't carry the whole crew cause my loadout in group is just support but it showed that money doesn't necessarily make you good it just affords you a power advantage over your opponent in PVP

   Crusader CR15179 RES2080 PARA672 Im also 66 years old this is my second game my first being Toe Jam and Earl

8. I think they’ll be $50 and $100

9. Syndicate, the most whale heavy xlan on the server complaining about whales 😂😂😂😂😂

10. Resonance isn't free and will not be free. People are paying for it. Why would they make it free?

11. Who cares? If you want the stuff, get the stuff. If you don't want the stuff, don't get the stuff. If you can't afford the stuff, put the game down and go back to work.

12. If you don't like the game, don't play it. Simple. Above all quit 😢😢😢.

13. I came back to the game and I’ve spent about $500 the chance at getting 5 star gem to sell on the market is just too low. Pretty much waste of money I should of stayed F2P

14. Finally, someone discussed this.. LOL! Those bundles are really ridiculous.

15. Overreaction bro, these are prob $50-$75 max. They're not that interesting to whales because its only 2* quality. 1 or 2 gems of choice won't make a huge difference when they need 20 copies and can easily obtain through crest runs. This is much more helpful for low spenders

16. i reached almost 200 par 400 res and I'm on a hampster wheel of daily's. the game is paywalled to advance any further, or ill need to play till 2032, to get to 600 with res at 1000 at http://FTP..

17. This last update is jacked up big time. Loads of us are being kicked out of the vault runs at the end of floor 1 and 3. Have to hurry up and restart the game to get back in, player wiaiting for us to get back in, also, don't think we get paid at the end because we get kicked out before we can actually exit the 3rd floor!!

18. This is the first time I've heard 3k, 4k resonance referred to as a whale.

19. I'm betting that DI will have made more money than D4 when its all said and done. Also I want to point out that a Nintendo game was $50 back when I was a kid in the 80's. That would be literally Hundreds of dollars in todays money. When companies figure out how to properly allign the in game incentives and payment structures inside the games the complaints will stop. Bottom line, these companies are struggling to make the kind of money they did back in the day. For games to be truly good again the companies need to make like $400 per customer and hopefully they can figure out a way to make those customers happy do to it so the companies can make gaming great again. It's not as exciting as it used to be.

20. You’re a campion for us f2p and low spenders! Been subbed since day one marvel future Revolution and I’m still here! Keep your voice strong on our behalf

21. I'll tell you right now it's $50 and $100 respectively.

22. Well, time to hit that treasure goblin again…

23. Whale is not 3k. Not even close

24. Let me tell you what is happening on my server, at the hands of whales.

    We have a 7200+ Res player who pretty much everyone in the game knows (I'll xall him superwhale). He recruited whales from other servers after consolidating most of the whales on our original server.

    We had server merger.

    After merger, it was his whale clan and aligned clans vs other whale clans from 3 other servers. So there was a good competitive environment.

    Fast forward ~6 months, all whale clans have aligned with said superwhale except 1. So now the server is about 8 whale clans all aligned, and then everyone else, plus one whale clan, comprised of players who already played with superwhale's clan and aren't interested in doing it again.

    Now that would still be ok if any of the whale clans actually wanted Immortal. But they do not.

    So now superwhale is propping up middle tier alliances to be immortal. One could argue that gives an opportunity to players who otherwise would not be immortal, which may he true.

    However, this had led to yet another toxic dynamic – whales bitching on WC about the vault not being defended, mocking and making fun of Immortals – most of whom do not even have 1K res and zero vault defence experience.

    After 1 day of vault defence, many of the current immortals gave up. There were either no/few vaults they could take of similar resonance, or they were getting crushed by teams of 7k whales, battle after battle. 1 hour of that was too much. Many quit after just 30 minutes.

    I have repeatedly told whales on WC they need to either party 1 whale to 3 lowbies (even then, they may still get autoskipped ad nauseam); have at least 2 of their party members leave the vault at 4th floor; or take off some gems so res is lower. But you know that last one is taboo – 1000 res gems cover up a whole lot of bad technique.

    Daily I receive complaining messages in my box, as tho I am somehow responsible. I'm not even in leadership.

    One guy from original abovesaid superwhale clan actually had the audacity to tell me that if we do not defend the vault with minnow teams being crushed for one straight hour – WE ARE PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR KILLING THE SERVER, which was some twisted logic right there.

    Literally nobody wants Immortal on our server bcz the whales say it's too much work for too few rewards.

    When I pointed out that had all the whales not made a super-alliance but rather we had balanced clans, or if they wanted immortal, we would not be where we are at right now. Of course that fell on deaf ears.

    My server has gone full toxic due to the whale dynamic. Oh and they are importing more, who I guess will also complain about lame immortals, while not wanting to be immortals nor be in a balanced clan of players. It will be great fun.

    So ya, I'm not very stoked for more gems to make more whales happy. 😐😐😐

    The game desperately needs a path to higher resonance that does not involve a 25K or more expenditure.

    This game is excessively pay-to-win; and the elitism that is accompanying it is showcasing some of the very worst human behaviour.

    Way-to-go Bliz.

25. its a gacha game but its still not as bad as most other gacha games

26. I think it's going to be 50$ and 100$.

27. Personally 1300 reso played 5 matches today they all had 7000+ whales inside..

28. Isn't this the equivalent of people buying plat and just buying gems on the market but maybe cheaper?

29. UNDECEMBER JUST MADE EVERYTHING F2P WHAT A BOSS MOVE, JUST STARTED PLAYING THAT TODAY, AFTER SO MUCH DIABLO PAY2WIN BS.. CAN EASILY BE BEST GAME IF THEY MAKE EVERYTHING FREE AND ONLY MAKE U PAY FOR GOLD TO BUY MORE IN GAME ITEMS, IF THE CHANGE THE CURRENCY TO GOLD NOT PLATINUM AND ALL THE OTHER STUPID STUFF, AND IF PPL WANT TO PAY THEY CAN UUAT BUY THE GOLD FROM THE SHOP IF THEY REALLY WANT TO SPEND MONEY ON ITEMS BESIDES THAT MAKE EVERYTHING FREE, BESIDES SKIN, BUT MAKE EVERYTHING ELSE WORK BASED ON GOLD. AND THIS GAME WOULD BE EASILY A PLUS GAME.

30. We need a way to filter out big spenders so that normal players can enjoy it. Keep resonance caps in for groups or something.

31. DI is just a money grab waste of time.

32. Battle pass skin are ugly because it cheap,want good skin buy it at 50 dollar😂… net ease

33. Getting out of hand? P2W was out of hand at launch. This is just ridonkulous.

34. Too much pay to win. There is no chance for F2P or low spenders to even compete in PVP. I tried it again, and just was a piece of meat for the grinder. Not playing PVP again for a long time.