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Will Intel 15th Gen Arrow Lake CATCH Apple’s M1 Max? Doubt it.



0:00 Intro
0:19 Intel will make M1 Max level efficient chips by 2023??
3:25 Does Lumafusion on Android mean Final Cut on iPad?
4:46Render times on M1 Max
5:56 M2 & A16 Production Schedule
7:02 Landscape Home Screen to return?

Intel is planning to make chips with the efficiency of Apple’s M1 Max by late 2023 or early 2024 according to a leaked roadmap from the processor maker, just 2-3 years after Apple achieved it. These would be Intel’s 15th Generation Arrow Lake chips, but we’ve heard much about Intel’s plans for getting efficiency from their chips in the past. How have they finally worked out how to get their chips more efficient? Have they managed to bring their chip node processes down to 5nm like Apple’s chips made by TSMC? Well, no, instead of making the chips themselves, they appear to be outsourcing the production to TSMC themselves, using the 3nm process expected to be ready to go by then.

So, suddenly it sounds a little less impressive. Intel will use someone else’s manufacturing, using a process that is a 40% node size reduction vs Apple’s chips that were made on the 5nm process about a year ago. 3 years late, and clearly a 40% less efficient design. Once you start breaking things down, Intel’s plans seem far less impressive.

And of course, we assume that Apple won’t be resting on their laurels either and by the time these arrive Apple will most likely be a couple of generations further along too, and using TSMC’s 3nm process themselves. Tim Cook is legendary in the industry for booking out chip capacity way in advance, part of the reason that supply constraints on Apple hardware have been far less severe than on PC hardware like GPUs and even the kind of chips that have held back car production around the world. The silicon shortage hasn’t been driven by a lack of sand but by the increased demand that so many more products becoming smart has lead to, from cars to appliances, even robot vacuums and the like. On that topic, Robot Vacuum review coming very soon.

We’re even expecting to see some of the next generation Apple chips very soon, like, within the next couple of weeks soon when Apple’s rumoured March 8th event is likely to introduce M2, based on the A15 chip architecture. I know many are saying that Apple would never release M2 before all of the M1 Max and Duo products are out, but that’s just a basic misunderstanding of how chips work – Apple is still happy to sell 2019 Mac Pro with old Xeon chips, and has happily kept selling various slower models even at higher prices like the intel Mac mini that’s still available from Apple today.

So by the time Intel does come out with these Arrow Lake chips, I think we’ll be seeing some truly insane efficient performance from Apple’s M2 Max and maybe even M3 Max chips on the same 3nm processes. And if they’re going into M2 and M3 Max Duo or Quad systems for Mac Pro, even more. But remember, one of the bigger limitations of the M1 Max right now was the Graphics performance compared to discreet graphics in laptops like the 3090 from Nvidia, but A15 got around 55% more graphics performance than the A14 that M1 was based on, so expect M2 and M2 Pro or Max to make big leaps here too.

Let me know your thoughts on Intel’s roadmap down in the comments where you can ask your iCaveAnswers too, and lets get into those now.

Fb London
#icaveanswers Do you think lumafusion coming to android means apple may at last be releasing pro apps for the iPad this year and lumatouch have had a heads up or do you think they was always going to release a android version ?

Brandon L
#icaveanswers How long does it take to export an episode? I purchased a 16″ M1 Max MacBook Pro, converting video files from ProRes to HEVC is terrible. It takes 30 minutes to convert a 3 minute ProRes clip to HEVC Dolby Vision. Do you have any ideas?

Evan Rodgers
#icaveanswers – what’s the latest on Apple Silicon production leaks? When should we expect A16 and M2 to go into production?

Team Kinetix
#iCaveAnswers now that Apple are working on reducing the size of the notch, and have elegant solutions to homescreen widgets in portrait mode on iPad, do you think we’ll ever see homescreen portrait mode on iPhone again?

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