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I was wrong about Apple Vision Pro

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I didn’t want to like it, but here we are

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Chapter Titles
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0:00 Hello and Welcome
0:08 Elly is here!
0:59 Hand-on with the Vision Pro
1:59 Who is this for?
3:00 What’s wrong with it?
4:02 Not about gaming
5:05 Wearing it for the first time
5:58 Seamless connection
7:01 Using your hands
8:02 Will this work out?
9:05 DONT wear this in public
10:08 What will V2 look like?
11:08 Why is it METAL?
12:11 When will we see an update?
13:11 Its BETTER than 3D
14:03 What do you think?

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  2. Now that iPhone can record 3D videos to be relived on the Vision Pro it makes so much ore sense than going around awkwardly recording with the headset even tho we know that will become something normal too

  3. Also, the 2 hour battery life is normal for standalone VR Headsets, BUT you CAN use it ALL DAY just by having it plugged in! You don't need to rely solely on the battery packs 2 hour limit.

  5. way to big, but ar glasses like rokid max are lighter and i just use the rokid max with own prescription glasses as second normal glasses outside together with the rokid station, so it feels more normal but i have still acsess to helpful infomation and some games to play everywhere without the need to take the phone out of the pocket and look down like a zombie all the time. i can keep eyecontact aand do the smartphone things, google stuff, watch videos,play games use apps and stuff while walking around and dont need this heavy device on the head. apple visiion pro also has only 2 hours battery, my rokid glasses have with the lil station 5 hours battery and are waay lighter and feel like normal sunglasses instead of a vr headset.

  6. Why do you think the Vision Pro will have only two markets, the Uber-rich and developers?

    I’m expecting a multi-million unit backorder for Vision Pro in 2024

    How many people fit this scenario:

    (1) I'm looking to upgrade my 9 year old MacBook Pro. Now I see that Vision Pro has an M2 processor and will cost less than the full-up version of an M2 MBP I'd expected to buy. Now I've got an alternative purchase.

    (2) I live in a VERY small flat to save money. With far too little workspace to deploy multiple-monitor hardware for a workstation, Vision Pro lets me deploy limitless work monitors of limitless size for my work. Even with room, I'd have to shell out more money for monitors. Now I can avoid the expenditure. And who ever hauled multiple monitors to a coffee shop?

    (3) Table space at coffee shops are tight as it is. There's almost NEVER room to be transcribing my handwritten notes alongside my MacBook, with mouse and coffee alongside, on their tiny round tables. I also must consider the privacy risk of people seeing my writing, deciding I'm not a member of their 'tribe' and accosting me for not meeting their self-righteous version of politically correct. Vision Pro will mean I only need have a bluetooth keyboard and coffee on my table, along with my notes — which are otherwise indecipherable for others to read.

    (4) I have presbyopia, which means my no-line bifocals keep all but what's directly in front of me in a blurred out state. This make multi-monitor workstations a fatigue ordeal from having to strain my eyes and swivel my neck left and right, up and down, to read such monitor arrangements. With Zeiss prescription inserts, all viewpoints are kept in focus, at any angle, at any distance. Vision Pro is a guaranteed productivity boost and cure for eye and neck strain.

    (5) Who would walk away from the potential to watch 3D movies on a 100 foot theatre screen venue?

    (6) I have a MetaQuest 2 that I bought last Christmas. It collects dust in my closet after less than 4 hours of use while attempting to play VR games. The vertigo and motion sickness I experienced was overwhelming. With almost zero lag time, the Vision Pro will eliminate much of that trouble — if I ever get bored from experiencing the enormous productivity increases from using it in work.

    In summary, Vision Pro is a must-have for me because of:
    MacBook Pro replacement option; Limited workspace at home; Limited workspace at coffee shops; Corrective for Eye and neck fatigue; Limitless home-theatre capability; Mitigation for VR gaming motion-sickness.

    That’s SIX killer applications for me, and that’s before any developers have published apps!

  7. Apple are gonna sell an external battery to easily double usage time for ridiculous prices because (1st…… they can) and also because (as far as I could tell from the keynote) it connects to the headset with a proprietary connector.

    Expect to pay hundreds of dollars for a jumped up powerbank with a fancy connector 😅

  9. The part where she talks about it "almost being weird" how real things looked and the being close to….. this is where at least 90% of all men (on the low end!) had the same exact thought.

  10. Also – This is not a new invention… Just like Apple didn't invent the tablet (Microsoft Tablet PC anyone? Also – Palm! etc.). This is a tech demo which Apple decided to make a main stream sales campaign for – for some reason… And that 2 hours of use…. eeeehhhhhhh

  11. The battery is external, so it won't be difficult for a user to buy an aftermarket larger capacity version. If it was an internal one, it would have been heavier, uncomfortable and harder to service when it's time to replace it.

  13. Mark Gurman himself a few days ago on Bloomberg called the apple vision pro and I quote “fake AR” he said apple “from a technological point of view this headset, like you said is VR virtual reality!. What they’ve done is essentially make a fake AR glasses” that’s a direct quote from Mark Gurman on Bloomberg. So that’s it the vision pro is not an AR headset it’s a glorified VR headset with a high price. Hence today apple has cut the production to 400,000 units and was the reason for thr bloomberg interview with Mark!. Another quote from Mark “they’ve made fake glasses or quasi AR glasses with a screen and outside cameras to create a fake AR effect”. Disaster out disastrous product!.

  14. On one hand we got people saying “wearing stuff on your face is inherently disconnecting because people can’t see your eyes, blah blah blah technology bad” and on the other hand people saying “is the screen on the outside showing your eyes TOO MUCH???” People saying “it’s pointless and too expensive no one will want it” and then saying “plus with everyone wearing one of these nobody’s gonna be paying attention to each other.”

  15. They should remove that fancy, see through part in the front of the headset because to me it's not necessary. And doing that it should cut cost. The female guest is right the vision Pro is an alternate tech device for home not a replacement for all things computing.

  16. I think it is hard to argue that the amount of technology and features that apple put into this headset isn't impressive. Despite the really incredible technology, I just don't see a practical use that makes it worth $3,500 for most consumers, even wealthy ones. Gaming is likely not a huge use case because of the lack of controllers. Movie watching is probably not a huge use case because it's uncomfortable, large, has a short battery, and if you have $3500 to spend on a vr headset you likely already have a great tv. There is also absolutely no way most people will be willing to wear this bulky headset to watch a movie on a plane. The same applies to work, monitors are substantially cheaper and more practical than a vr headset. Really the only use case I think is somewhat strong is socializing with people remotely. The front screen while innovative, also seems like an almost entirely unnecessary feature that significantly increases the cost for little benefit. When the iPhone came out, the value was obvious to me immediately, with this it seems like a really expensive, really cool tech gimmick.

  18. I've checked out of apple's ecosystem since the iphone 6 release, but I think I'm going to save up for the vision. This really does seem like the first HMD that doesnt seem like a gaming novelty. It actually seems like it could be taken seriously as a computing device.

    Any negative discourse around the vision right now really reflects the sentiment people had about the iphone, the ipad, and airpods, but look at how they have shaped the tech space. Everyone has a full-screen phone and wireless earbuds and most at least know a couple people with tablets (ipads predominantly). Sure, those things had been made before, but it was apples refinement of those products that launch the widespread adoption of them.

  20. Supposedly, Sony can make between 800 and 900 thousand screens the first year. So that means maybe 400 to 450 thousand headsets in the first year.

    They will sell every one. I’m going to try to get one, but with that limited supply, and a large number for developers and enterprise, which is interested, I don’t know if I will be able to.

    Yes, they will get the weight down. They will get the price down, but not to the $500 level. People will buy them. I’ve used industrial models that cost two to three times as much, need to be tethered to a powerful computer, and aren’t nearly as good as what the Vision Pro seems to be from the demos and from people who have tried it.

  25. Regarding the high price tag, Palmer Luckey, the founder of Oculus VR, made the following statement: "VR has to become something that everybody wants before it can become something that everyone can afford. You can't reverse those two steps and expect mainstream acceptance."

  30. Omg, it feels so good to hear the name Oculus!!. I fell in love with the oculus and idc how many times they change the name, it will always be the oculus to me.

  32. Incorrect, this version won’t be used outside, sure, but spatial computing will replace your phone eventually. Maybe by version 3, it will be a size and weight that can be used all the time. They won’t use plastic and they will lean into the external puck and move the SoC on it, leaving only the co-processor on the display. They can have better heatsinks without having to put the weight on your head. The thing is, you won’t have your phone, you will use this with the puck. That’s why the front display is so important. When the headset is small enough, showing your face will be way more natural and you won’t need to take it off to interact with people. I don’t think it will ever get as small as glasses, not because it’s impossible, but because the user experience starts to suffer when your goal is to make the device that small. I can see it getting as small as the Balenciaga Mask Rectangle Sunglasses, maybe a little smaller than that, but once you go too small there are too many trade offs. You aren’t seeing the future of this product very clearly. It won’t be glasses sized, it won’t get rid of the puck, it will replace your phone, it will show your face externally so you don’t have to take it off, and it will have full day battery life. Also, I think the control of the device will expand beyond just pinching with your fingers, they have full skeletal hand tracking. I don’t think you’ll wave your hand in front of your face for the majority of controls, but it won’t be limited to just finger pinching.

  38. For the test… I want to see a non apple fan, skeptical person. Emotions.. can cloud your judgement. Me… Once I test it at the store, I will be very calm and pay very attention at the details

  39. I almost never film on a concert anymore… First what hell??? I won't enjoy the real moment. Now… With a headset That costs more than a good car, f! That's a no.

  41. APPLE didn't develop this tech!! 🤬🤬🤬 the sheer intentional salesmanship of youtubers is absolutely absurd. This is existing tech. Refined. But existing.