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Edius X Crashing When Editing Apple HEVC H.265 Video Footage



Edius X Crashing When Editing Apple HEVC H.265 Video Footage

In this video I’m showing a reproducible crash scenario with Edius X by Grass Valley when editing Apple HEVC video footage.

This particular crash scenario also happens with Edius 9 and Edius 8 and is something that’s obviously not been fixed with Edius X or Edius 10.

The footage is from an iPad Pro 2020 and I’ve also had the exact same issue with footage from this year’s iPhone SE.

The Apple HEVC footage is variable frame rate VFR footage. Although Edius is fine with VFR footage from Samsung devices. The issue happens with any frame rate footage that I’ve tried, 24FPS 30FPS and 60FPS.

My version of Edius 10 is Edius Work Group X

Having watched the Grass Valley Edius X preview videos and the Edius X launch videos earlier today and then immediately downloading Edius X from Edius.net as soon as it was available. I have to say that I’m very disappointing to see that this legacy issue has still not been fixed with Edius X.

I’ve also noticed other issues with Edius X that are also legacy problems from previous versions of the Edius NLE platform.

There’s also a new crash scenario that I’ve noticed with Edius X that wasn’t an issue with the Edius video editing software from previous iterations.

I will be uploading videos of some of the problems with Edius X that I’ve noticed.

On the plus side. I’ve tried doing some 8K UHD scaling and my first initial quick tests are simply stunning. I’ve also tried editing the 8K scaled output files in an 8K timeline, these files were produced with the Nvidia NVENC encoder at 220Mb. Again, I’m simply shocked at how well a straight cuts only 8K video editing
exorcise was within this resolution and with a traditionally difficult codec. I’m only using a 9900K, which I’m assuming Edius is still using as the decoder with QuickSync. I’ll post a video about this workflow soon, as I’m positive that it will be interesting for anyone producing video for YouTube.

I’ll also be trying some native 8K sources at various aspect ratios at 60FPS. I’m not sure that my setup will handle that without a HQX transcode but it’ll be worth trying. I’ll also post a video of that workflow as well.

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  1. Appreciate David’s analysis & everyone’s thoughtful replies. I’d just like to stand back for a minute and offer a moment of reflection if I may:Absolutely no personal criticism of any replies intended. Nonetheless, if all anyone wants to do is throw some footage on a timeline & perform cuts – which is the very essence of exiting – the whole experience is one of dysfunctional! The amount of technical knowledge required simply to attempt a pre-diagnosis on an issue is mind boggling. As an industry/society we’ve gone from cutting a piece of physical plastic with a pair of scissors, whereby we could control our work flow, to a situation of passive observers to problems we are unable to fix. Indeed, the power we have to control our work rate seems has been taken from our hands. Anyway, agreed there is plenty of good stuff with all modern editing but it’s depressing when performing a single cut negates the very thing you are trying to achieve. ImGood luck David & best to all dear posters.✊

  2. Hello, you are one of the few who talk about edius in a professional way. I'm interested in how edius behaves with an apple m1 chip?
    I've worked with PP for over 20 years, AVID, FCP… None of these programs have come close to Edius since the days of the DvStorm2pro card.
    I use Davinci at the moment but I really always remember edius with melancholy. How it is today, does it still have real advantages compared to other NLE? I know it's primarily for PC system but how it behaves on Mac?

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  4. Hi David.
    It's not just Edius that's having problems with new phone codecs. Variable frame rate videos and video using SOWT audio codecs are presenting problems for a lot of NLEs. A lot of these are coming from new phones, not just iPhones. Crashes happen where the frame rates change lot over a short time period. Going from as low as 23 fps to 30fps and above as action within the frame increases or decreases suddenly. Sometimes not even passing these files through Handbrake helps. I'm seeing more and more complaints like this every week.
    Ray.