Intel’s FAILED gamble against Apple

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1. You’re comparing potatoes and tomatoes.
   AppleM3 is a chip “inscribed” in a complete organised optimised for its architecture.
   Meteorlake has non optimised software yet and works on architectures that are not “made” exclusively for it.
   The M3 is the “son” of M1 and M2, so the 3rd iteration.
   Meteorlake is the first.
   You’re comparing a 7nm chip against a 3nm chip.
   Arrowlake will be out in 4month and it will be 4nm, lunar lake will be here at the end of 2024 and it will be 2nm.
   You forgot to mention that with only the update of the bios, the meteorlake is 30% better…
   Let’s wait 3-4 month and let’s see the results. Let’s wait one year and see what you will say.
   It’s no even a problem of partiality, but to be precise.

   P.S: 2 years ago everyone said that would be impossible for the x86 architecture to move below 12nm and that Windows on Arm is the only future possible.
   Intel said that the purpose for this release would be "energy".
   Job done, the new Ultra Laptop (without dedicated RTX GCard) will last hours and hours more than the previous.

2. The core ultra H series are the predecessor to the 13th gen p series not H series, the core ultra 9 185H is predecessor to the 13th gen intel h series

3. Intel could've been where Nvidia is at today very easily. Such a mismanaged company.

4. I aint seeing Intel doing much of anything with their first "real" arm cpu. I'll put my eggs in the Qualcomm basket

5. I don't like Intel recently. But i need them to succeed.

6. Intel is super lazy arrogance company

7. Samsung and Intel are two companies who reluctant to take customers advice, increase prices ridiculously but downgraded stone aged tech

8. I am interested in all CPUs / SoCs. For me, for me it is important, how strong the single core power may be. As starting programs and running most apps, only a single core is used today. So multicore performance just tries to make „you blind“ for weak power. Some programs ARE using more than one single performance core. Even every iPad pro may not use more than a single performance core at a time, this really sucks. Even with Stage Mode or with connected power supply (up,to 40W PD), my experience shows, that all four performance cores will never been used at all! The reason: Too many constraints of iPadOS and power savings. But: Is this „professional“?

9. i9 worst than a Ryzen 5?!😮

10. Apple is defeating only on MARKETING. Apple had become an antiquated company that's only good in MARKETING.
    Apple has become a meme!!!!

11. Apple is using 3nm, Intel is using packed 7nm, running at higher frequencies. Of course, it is not as efficient. But it will gets better on the next node.😅😅😅😅😊😊

12. Intel is f****d.

13. Here’s an idea for another episode. Can you please 🙏 do a comparison that shows real life usage for a .NET developer (me 😅) using a MacBook Air m2 with 24 GB of RAM. The idea is to see how the machine performs when running the VM attempting to build and do other real-life tasks in comparison to a Windows native machine? This could showcase the true potential for having MacBook as a .NET developer

14. Meteor Lake is great for laptops. Which I believe was its intention purpose. It does what it needs to do. Since it is based upon legacy architecture it’s not surprising there’s no comparable leap in performance per watt the M1 demonstrated upon release.

15. It is also due to the os. Apple have their cpu highly optimized for their own os.

16. But isn't this Intel's FIRST iteration? M-THREE versus a first edition release? Well done. Apple had enough time to improve and streamline their stuff. Let's come back to this discussion after 2 years.

17. i think intel and amd are not even trying to catch up but are more focusing to provide good cpu's for the average consumer who don't have 5-6k to drop on a imac, the only reason why people buy a imac is work related or just having to much money. better to focus on the 90% marketplace and compete with amd then competing with apple for the 10% marketplace.

18. There’s no reason to not root for intel actually. It benefits intel users (obviously) and it benefits apple users since intel would force apple to make better products and be cheaper.

19. I always assumed that Intel had at least 5 years of incremental upgrades ready, and they could skip 2 generations ahead on a whim. But they didn't even do that? No preparation for competitors catching up? Wow. What terrible business practices. Or rather: what short-term vision.

20. RISC is garbage.

21. I would say that it's too early in the game (or perhaps too late; I never really know) to discuss these new CPUs. My experience with new releases like this has been mixed. The only recent product that truly impressed me on the CPU front was Apple's MacBook Air with the M1 chip. That was one of those remarkable moments in history, and I had the privilege of witnessing it firsthand!

22. Apple isn't actually that efficient under load anymore, they're way more efficient at idle/low power tasks but under high load AMD is basically already on par with Apple Silicon.

23. I think intel really needs to focus on power efficiency for laptop chips. AMD is ahead of Intel in that regards, it also doesn't help that Windows software isn't well optimized for their architecture because of how different it is. In the gaming handheld world AMD is probably going to be hands down better than Intel, meteor lake's APU's might be a little bit more powerful when enough wattage is thrown at them, but the fact that MSI hasn't allowed reviewers with pre production units to test battery life is a very bad sign

24. Intel has “back door” scandal as well. I wouldn’t be surprised it’s being set up to be bankrupted.

25. When Apple's CPU will run Windows or Linux, the will tapl about performance…… (a good GPU have a better AI performance than any Apple any time) 😎